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		<title>Comment on Links from the underground, links to the past&#8230; by wjm</title>
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		<description>Hi Lesli!

Thanks for commenting! Do you know of anyone who has written a cultural history of the early days of the web? (Say, 1991 - 1997?) These anecdotes are pretty fascinating, and I would love to hear more stories about how the medium evolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lesli!</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting! Do you know of anyone who has written a cultural history of the early days of the web? (Say, 1991 &#8211; 1997?) These anecdotes are pretty fascinating, and I would love to hear more stories about how the medium evolved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Links from the underground, links to the past&#8230; by Lesli Arbuthnot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesli Arbuthnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>used to know justin when he came to sf (I guess from college break?) --- think it was at the BAIUG meetings (Bay Area Internet User&#039;s Group) we started the group before mosaic, so the convo was how to ftp, whois, using lynx, and why the hell do i have to wait so long to get an account on NetCom!!! and then -- one of the most memorable meetings I attended - there was a local ISP called sirius, and they were starting to offer unlimited monthly usage accounts! We were probably still at around 28b or 56b then. we absolutely could not compute how they could stay in business offering unlimited access. Craig Newmark attended some meetings too, but Craig&#039;s List had an entirely different purpose back then (ask him, I don&#039;t claim to be his biographer) anyway I am just now also starting an essay on all my memories from back then. Here&#039;s one: I worked for the local legal newspaper, the San Francisco Recorder, whose parent company was American Lawyer Media. (They were also in trial mode with a AOL-style closed online system called Lexis Counsel Connect.) All that said, the publisher of the paper at the time, Peter Sheer, asked me to surf the net for as long as it would take, and find URL&#039;s for sites with advertising on them. (I was hired as the resident Internet geek, identified by the fact that my resume was the first they had received with an email address listed as a contact). I damn wish I had that email, but I can visualize it and I&#039;m thinking that *maybe* I came up with ten sites? But it was real hard going. I used Justin&#039;s as a resource, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>used to know justin when he came to sf (I guess from college break?) &#8212; think it was at the BAIUG meetings (Bay Area Internet User&#8217;s Group) we started the group before mosaic, so the convo was how to ftp, whois, using lynx, and why the hell do i have to wait so long to get an account on NetCom!!! and then &#8212; one of the most memorable meetings I attended &#8211; there was a local ISP called sirius, and they were starting to offer unlimited monthly usage accounts! We were probably still at around 28b or 56b then. we absolutely could not compute how they could stay in business offering unlimited access. Craig Newmark attended some meetings too, but Craig&#8217;s List had an entirely different purpose back then (ask him, I don&#8217;t claim to be his biographer) anyway I am just now also starting an essay on all my memories from back then. Here&#8217;s one: I worked for the local legal newspaper, the San Francisco Recorder, whose parent company was American Lawyer Media. (They were also in trial mode with a AOL-style closed online system called Lexis Counsel Connect.) All that said, the publisher of the paper at the time, Peter Sheer, asked me to surf the net for as long as it would take, and find URL&#8217;s for sites with advertising on them. (I was hired as the resident Internet geek, identified by the fact that my resume was the first they had received with an email address listed as a contact). I damn wish I had that email, but I can visualize it and I&#8217;m thinking that *maybe* I came up with ten sites? But it was real hard going. I used Justin&#8217;s as a resource, of course!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Accessing a personal digital history by Bryan Makin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Makin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really enjoyed this post. While I&#039;m a firm believer in preserving our history I am equally cautious about having our government step in and enforce such a thing. My hope is that social services such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. would understand the immense value of providing quick and easy access to our past (short-term: better services to attract and maintain users; long-term: become intimately entwined in our cultural fabric).

Either way, I think one thing is for certain: as our technology advances at an exponential rate, it is crucial that we learn to harness it&#039;s endless benefits before we perfect the exploitation of each others privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoyed this post. While I&#8217;m a firm believer in preserving our history I am equally cautious about having our government step in and enforce such a thing. My hope is that social services such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. would understand the immense value of providing quick and easy access to our past (short-term: better services to attract and maintain users; long-term: become intimately entwined in our cultural fabric).</p>
<p>Either way, I think one thing is for certain: as our technology advances at an exponential rate, it is crucial that we learn to harness it&#8217;s endless benefits before we perfect the exploitation of each others privacy.</p>
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